[Mail_treas] 100% behind efforts on personal liability issue

Thu Feb 22 14:20:28 EST 2018

Amen

Brett Robson

Treasurer

Western Reserve Local Schools

(p) 419-660-8508 x2601

(f) 419-660-8429

*From:* Roxanne Mazur [mailto:roxanne.mazur at carrolltonschools.org]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:07 PM
*To:* Richard Cox
*Cc:* matt.king at bevsd.org; bmarkland at tuslawschools.org;
oecn_treas at mail.oecn.k12.oh.us; Bradley Browne; Jamie Rossler; Jane Fruth;
Jeff Fouke; Kerri Johnson (kjohnson at anthonywayneschools.org); Lisa Shanks;
Pam Harrington; Paul Brotzki - Maumee Schools (PBrotzki at maumeek12.org);
ryanlockwood at springfield-schools.org
*Subject:* Re: 100% behind efforts on personal liability issue

BELOW is an email I sent to our SEOASBO President last year....My feelings
have not changed any.

Hi Denise,

I will be on vacation. I am pretty sure I owe dues. Who is the Treasurer so
I can ask and forward? I want to be up-to-date on my obligations, BECAUSE…..

I want to be the instigator (and would hope that others would support me)
in getting OASBO back to work for Treasurers. I do not need OASBO to tell
me which software I want or what vendor I want for a service. I need OASBO
to lobby for me where it counts! Years ago they were to pick up the mantle
to protect Treasurers from being accountable for things we have no control
over. Right now, especially in my world, the Supt has all the authority
over employees ( I was directly told in this District, that I have no
authority over employees) and I am fine with that, but now I am the one
with all the potential sanctions? That makes a lot of sense doesn’t it? I
don’t hire nor am I consulted on hiring, I don’t fire, I cannot discipline,
I cannot reassign, etc. I really would like to know from the State
Auditor’s point of view how it came to be that sanctions name the Treasurer
and NOT the Supt.  Sounds to me like BASA or other orgs that Supt belong
to, had more of a voice than OASBO.

Another point of contention is that when Treasurers take on a Supt who is
“running off the rails”, Treasurers lose whether it was justified or not.
Not long before she passed, Londa Schwierking told me of the Treasurer  who
lost his job doing the “right” thing of exposing a Supt who was not
ethical. Supt was shucked, but then so was the Treasurer for starting it
all. If legislature wants us to be the police, fine; I can handle that, but
the police aren’t going to police without protection. That is like sending
a real cop into gang neighborhoods without guns or body armor. The Cops
aren’t going to do anything but drive through the neighborhood, at best.
Most people when facing the choice of keeping their job or stirring crap,
are going to choose keeping their job UNLESS they have protection. So
unless that gets built in, the policing is just token for appearance sake.
Who knows, maybe that is all legislators want; a good appearance. And maybe
I’m an idiot for thinking that most legislators really want to affect REAL
checks and balances for the system that is educating our young. But if they
really do want the right thing done, someone needs to lead them to the
light of how that really GETS DONE!

Thanks for listening to me.

Roxanne

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Richard Cox <RCox at esclakeeriewest.org>
wrote:

Today, I have read David Flemings email today concerning the personal
liability School Treasurers face each day while other school personnel are
not held to the same standards and whole heartedly agree this needs to be
addressed.

Please convey my support when you take these concerns to  the AOS forum
through OASBO to get the Auditor of State to listen to our objections of
making the School Treasurer's often times the scapegoat for other's
misdeeds and fraud against schools.

I can attest to the dramatic effect this had on myself in the past and the
threat of loss of personal assets can have and our voices need to be
heard.  I know others have faced this as well and the need to change this
is now.

In addition, OASBO needs to provide partnership and support through the
legislative channels and also search for a personal liability insurance
approach for Treasurers.  I have often searched for fiduciary liability
insurance and cannot find such an instrument.  This issue needs to be
addressed as a collective and aggressive campaign to get this changed.

*It is time* this needs to be addressed and whatever I can do push this
effort please let me know.  I think about this every day and whoever needs
contacted please let us all know.

*Richard Cox*

Treasurer

Educational Service Center of Lake Erie West

Work:  (419) 246-3075

Office: (419) 246-3075

Fax:      (419) 246-3076

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