[Mail_treas] [Treas] 100% behind efforts on personal liability issue

[Kim Jones]

Thanks for sharing!!!! I agree with all of you!

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Chelsea Baldwin <cbaldwin at wlstigers.org>
wrote:

> I am a new Treasurer, (July 1st) and I was astonished to learn how much
> liability I just took on with this job.  Besides trying to learn the job I
> have some anxiety about my liability, especially for so many things that
> are out of my control.  Please keep advocating for change!
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> *Chelsea Baldwin*
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> *Treasurer*
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> *West Liberty-Salem School*
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> *937-465-1075 ext 113 <(937)%20465-1075>*
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> *From:* mail_treas-bounces at lists.woco-k12.org [mailto:mail_treas-bounces@
> lists.woco-k12.org] *On Behalf Of *Liz Arnold
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:35 PM
> *To:* Lori Statler <lstatler at claymontschools.org>
> *Cc:* Roxanne Mazur <roxanne.mazur at carrolltonschools.org>;
> matt.king at bevsd.org; Kerri Johnson (kjohnson at anthonywayneschools.org) <
> kjohnson at anthonywayneschools.org>; Paul Brotzki - Maumee Schools (
> PBrotzki at maumeek12.org) <PBrotzki at maumeek12.org>;
> ryanlockwood at springfield-schools.org; Lisa Shanks <
> LShanks at sylvaniaschools.org>; Richard Cox <RCox at esclakeeriewest.org>;
> oecn_treas at mail.oecn.k12.oh.us; Jamie Rossler <jrossler at mail.rossford.k12.
> oh.us>; Jane Fruth <JFruth at districtland.nwoca.org>; Pam Harrington <
> treasurer at perrysburgschools.net>; bmarkland at tuslawschools.org; Jeff Fouke
> <jfouke at wls4kids.org>; Bradley Browne <BBrowne at ohschools.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Treas] 100% behind efforts on personal liability issue
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> I agree with all above and boy, do I miss Londa Schwierking!  She was
> someone who was so knowledgeable and reliable for the right answers.  Let
> me know what I can do to help.
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> Thanks,
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> Liz
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> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Lori Statler <
> lstatler at claymontschools.org> wrote:
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> I agree with Roxanne.  This not something that an Auditor of State
> committee can address.  This is something that OASBO, as our
> representatives, need to lobby the legislature to change for our benefit.
> Maybe if we all stopped paying our annual dues, something might change.
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> *Lori Statler, *CFO/Treasurer
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> Claymont City School District
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Claymont+City+School+District201+North+Third+Street+Dennison,+Ohio+44621&entry=gmail&source=g>
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> 201 North Third Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Claymont+City+School+District201+North+Third+Street+Dennison,+Ohio+44621&entry=gmail&source=g>
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> Dennison, Ohio 44621
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Claymont+City+School+District201+North+Third+Street+Dennison,+Ohio+44621&entry=gmail&source=g>
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> (740)922-5478 ext. 12005 <(740)%20922-5478>
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> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Roxanne Mazur <roxanne.mazur@
> carrolltonschools.org> wrote:
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> BELOW is an email I sent to our SEOASBO President last year....My feelings
> have not changed any.
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> Hi Denise,
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> I will be on vacation. I am pretty sure I owe dues. Who is the Treasurer
> so I can ask and forward? I want to be up-to-date on my obligations,
> BECAUSE…..
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> I want to be the instigator (and would hope that others would support me)
> in getting OASBO back to work for Treasurers. I do not need OASBO to tell
> me which software I want or what vendor I want for a service. I need OASBO
> to lobby for me where it counts! Years ago they were to pick up the mantle
> to protect Treasurers from being accountable for things we have no control
> over. Right now, especially in my world, the Supt has all the authority
> over employees ( I was directly told in this District, that I have no
> authority over employees) and I am fine with that, but now I am the one
> with all the potential sanctions? That makes a lot of sense doesn’t it? I
> don’t hire nor am I consulted on hiring, I don’t fire, I cannot discipline,
> I cannot reassign, etc. I really would like to know from the State
> Auditor’s point of view how it came to be that sanctions name the Treasurer
> and NOT the Supt.  Sounds to me like BASA or other orgs that Supt belong
> to, had more of a voice than OASBO.
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> Another point of contention is that when Treasurers take on a Supt who is
> “running off the rails”, Treasurers lose whether it was justified or not.
> Not long before she passed, Londa Schwierking told me of the Treasurer  who
> lost his job doing the “right” thing of exposing a Supt who was not
> ethical. Supt was shucked, but then so was the Treasurer for starting it
> all. If legislature wants us to be the police, fine; I can handle that,
> but the police aren’t going to police without protection. That is like
> sending a real cop into gang neighborhoods without guns or body armor. The
> Cops aren’t going to do anything but drive through the neighborhood, at
> best. Most people when facing the choice of keeping their job or stirring
> crap, are going to choose keeping their job UNLESS they have protection. So
> unless that gets built in, the policing is just token for appearance sake.
> Who knows, maybe that is all legislators want; a good appearance. And maybe
> I’m an idiot for thinking that most legislators really want to affect REAL
> checks and balances for the system that is educating our young. But if they
> really do want the right thing done, someone needs to lead them to the
> light of how that really GETS DONE!
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> Thanks for listening to me.
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> Roxanne
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> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Richard Cox <RCox at esclakeeriewest.org>
> wrote:
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> Today, I have read David Flemings email today concerning the personal
> liability School Treasurers face each day while other school personnel are
> not held to the same standards and whole heartedly agree this needs to be
> addressed.
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> Please convey my support when you take these concerns to  the AOS forum
> through OASBO to get the Auditor of State to listen to our objections of
> making the School Treasurer's often times the scapegoat for other's
> misdeeds and fraud against schools.
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> I can attest to the dramatic effect this had on myself in the past and the
> threat of loss of personal assets can have and our voices need to be
> heard.  I know others have faced this as well and the need to change this
> is now.
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> In addition, OASBO needs to provide partnership and support through the
> legislative channels and also search for a personal liability insurance
> approach for Treasurers.  I have often searched for fiduciary liability
> insurance and cannot find such an instrument.  This issue needs to be
> addressed as a collective and aggressive campaign to get this changed.
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> *It is time* this needs to be addressed and whatever I can do push this
> effort please let me know.  I think about this every day and whoever needs
> contacted please let us all know.
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> *Richard Cox*
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> Treasurer
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> Educational Service Center of Lake Erie West
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Kimberly Jones
Treasurer/CFO
Paulding Exempted Village Schools
405 North Water Street
Paulding, Ohio 45879
Phone: 419-399-4656 Ext 1550
www.pauldingschools.org
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