[Mail_treas] [Treas] 100% behind efforts on personal liability issue

[Brian Rella]

It goes without saying, I am certainly on board with this effort.  Anything
I can do to lend support, please advise.
Brian Rella

*Go Cats*

*Brian Rella*
Treasurer
Struthers City Schools
99 Euclid Avenue
Struthers Oh.  44471

brian.rella at strutherscityschools.org
330-750-1061


On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Joel Parker <joel at elida.k12.oh.us> wrote:

> Great points....my question is---when will someone get this excited about
> the $600,000,000.00 ECOT ran off with---make that job #1!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Ogg <rob.ogg at crooksville.k12.oh.us>
> To: Kim Jones <k_jones at pauldingschools.org>
> Cc: Chelsea Baldwin <cbaldwin at wlstigers.org>, "Elizabeth Arnold (
> no_larnold at seovec.org)" <no_larnold at seovec.org>, Lori Statler <
> lstatler at claymontschools.org>, Roxanne Mazur <roxanne.mazur@
> carrolltonschools.org>, "matt.king at bevsd.org" <matt.king at bevsd.org>,
> "Kerri Johnson (kjohnson at anthonywayneschools.org)" <
> kjohnson at anthonywayneschools.org>, "Paul Brotzki - Maumee Schools (
> PBrotzki at maumeek12.org)" <PBrotzki at maumeek12.org>, "
> ryanlockwood at springfield-schools.org" <ryanlockwood at springfield-
> schools.org>, Lisa Shanks <LShanks at sylvaniaschools.org>, Richard Cox <
> RCox at esclakeeriewest.org>, "oecn_treas at mail.oecn.k12.oh.us" <
> oecn_treas at mail.oecn.k12.oh.us>, Jamie Rossler <
> jrossler at mail.rossford.k12.oh.us>, Jane Fruth <
> JFruth at districtland.nwoca.org>, Pam Harrington <
> treasurer at perrysburgschools.net>, "bmarkland at tuslawschools.org" <
> bmarkland at tuslawschools.org>, Jeff Fouke <jfouke at wls4kids.org>, Bradley
> Browne <BBrowne at ohschools.org>
> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 15:03:40 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Treas] 100% behind efforts on personal liability issue
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> I often wonder if Josh Mandel is personally liable for all that happens in
> all state offices?
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> I was told that insurance carriers are willing to write personal liability
> coverages for Treasurers  but they are strictly prohibited by our state
> legislature. Seems like an attack on our profession and not on protecting
> public funds.
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> I am not sure of the reasoning.
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> Thanks for sharing!
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> Rob
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> On Feb 22, 2018 2:54 PM, "Kim Jones" < k_jones at pauldingschools.org>
> wrote:
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> Thanks for sharing!!!! I agree with all of you!
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> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Chelsea Baldwin < cbaldwin at wlstigers.org>
> wrote:
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>> I am a new Treasurer, (July 1st) and I was astonished to learn how much
>> liability I just took on with this job.  Besides trying to learn the job I
>> have some anxiety about my liability, especially for so many things that
>> are out of my control.  Please keep advocating for change!
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>> *Chelsea Baldwin*
>> * Treasurer*
>> *West Liberty-Salem School*
>> * 937-465-1075 ext 113 <(937)%20465-1075>*
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>> *From:* mail_treas-bounces at lists.woco-k12.org [mailto:
>> mail_treas-bounces at lists.woco-k12.org] *On Behalf Of *Liz Arnold
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:35 PM
>> *To:* Lori Statler <lstatler at claymontschools.org>
>> *Cc:* Roxanne Mazur < roxanne.mazur at carrolltonschools.org>;
>> matt.king at bevsd.org; Kerri Johnson (kjohnson at anthonywayneschools.org) <
>> kjohnson at anthonywayneschools.org>; Paul Brotzki - Maumee Schools (
>> PBrotzki at maumeek12.org) <PBrotzki at maumeek12.org>;
>> ryanlockwood at springfield-schools.org; Lisa Shanks <
>> LShanks at sylvaniaschools.org>; Richard Cox < RCox at esclakeeriewest.org>;
>> oecn_treas at mail.oecn.k12.oh.us; Jamie Rossler <
>> jrossler at mail.rossford.k12.oh.us>; Jane Fruth <
>> JFruth at districtland.nwoca.org>; Pam Harrington <
>> treasurer at perrysburgschools.net>; bmarkland at tuslawschools.org; Jeff
>> Fouke <jfouke at wls4kids.org >; Bradley Browne <BBrowne at ohschools.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Treas] 100% behind efforts on personal liability issue
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>> I agree with all above and boy, do I miss Londa Schwierking!  She was
>> someone who was so knowledgeable and reliable for the right answers.  Let
>> me know what I can do to help.
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>> Thanks,
>> Liz
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>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Lori Statler <
>> lstatler at claymontschools.org> wrote:
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>> I agree with Roxanne.  This not something that an Auditor of State
>> committee can address.  This is something that OASBO, as our
>> representatives, need to lobby the legislature to change for our benefit.
>> Maybe if we all stopped paying our annual dues, something might change.
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>> * Lori Statler, * CFO/Treasurer
>> Claymont City School District
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Claymont+City+School+District201+North+Third+Street+Dennison,+Ohio+44621&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> 201 North Third Street
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Claymont+City+School+District201+North+Third+Street+Dennison,+Ohio+44621&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Dennison, Ohio 44621
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Claymont+City+School+District201+North+Third+Street+Dennison,+Ohio+44621&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> (740)922-5478 ext. 12005 <(740)%20922-5478>
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>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Roxanne Mazur <
>> roxanne.mazur at carrolltonschools.org> wrote:
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>> BELOW is an email I sent to our SEOASBO President last year....My
>> feelings have not changed any.
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>> Hi Denise,
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>> I will be on vacation. I am pretty sure I owe dues. Who is the Treasurer
>> so I can ask and forward? I want to be up-to-date on my obligations,
>> BECAUSE…..
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>> I want to be the instigator (and would hope that others would support me)
>> in getting OASBO back to work for Treasurers. I do not need OASBO to tell
>> me which software I want or what vendor I want for a service. I need OASBO
>> to lobby for me where it counts! Years ago they were to pick up the mantle
>> to protect Treasurers from being accountable for things we have no control
>> over. Right now, especially in my world, the Supt has all the authority
>> over employees ( I was directly told in this District, that I have no
>> authority over employees) and I am fine with that, but now I am the one
>> with all the potential sanctions? That makes a lot of sense doesn’t it? I
>> don’t hire nor am I consulted on hiring, I don’t fire, I cannot discipline,
>> I cannot reassign, etc. I really would like to know from the State
>> Auditor’s point of view how it came to be that sanctions name the Treasurer
>> and NOT the Supt.  Sounds to me like BASA or other orgs that Supt belong
>> to, had more of a voice than OASBO.
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>> Another point of contention is that when Treasurers take on a Supt who is
>> “running off the rails”, Treasurers lose whether it was justified or not.
>> Not long before she passed, Londa Schwierking told me of the Treasurer  who
>> lost his job doing the “right” thing of exposing a Supt who was not
>> ethical. Supt was shucked, but then so was the Treasurer for starting it
>> all. If legislature wants us to be the  police, fine; I can handle that,
>> but the  police aren’t going to  police without protection. That is like
>> sending a real cop into gang neighborhoods without guns or body armor. The
>> Cops aren’t going to do anything but drive through the neighborhood, at
>> best. Most people when facing the choice of keeping their job or stirring
>> crap, are going to choose keeping their job UNLESS they have protection. So
>> unless that gets built in, the policing is just token for appearance sake.
>> Who knows, maybe that is all legislators want; a good appearance. And maybe
>> I’m an idiot for thinking that most legislators really want to affect REAL
>> checks and balances for the system that is educating our young. But if they
>> really do want the right thing done, someone needs to lead them to the
>> light of how that really GETS DONE!
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>> Thanks for listening to me.
>> Roxanne
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>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Richard Cox < RCox at esclakeeriewest.org>
>> wrote:
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>> Today, I have read David Flemings email today concerning the personal
>> liability School Treasurers face each day while other school personnel are
>> not held to the same standards and whole heartedly agree this needs to be
>> addressed.
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>> Please convey my support when you take these concerns to  the AOS forum
>> through OASBO to get the Auditor of State to listen to our objections of
>> making the School Treasurer's often times the scapegoat for other's
>> misdeeds and fraud against schools.
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>> I can attest to the dramatic effect this had on myself in the past and
>> the threat of loss of personal assets can have and our voices need to be
>> heard.  I know others have faced this as well and the need to change this
>> is now.
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>> In addition, OASBO needs to provide partnership and support through the
>> legislative channels and also search for a personal liability insurance
>> approach for Treasurers.  I have often searched for fiduciary liability
>> insurance and cannot find such an instrument.  This issue needs to be
>> addressed as a collective and aggressive campaign to get this changed.
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>> *It is time* this needs to be addressed and whatever I can do push this
>> effort please let me know.  I think about this every day and whoever needs
>> contacted please let us all know.
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>> *Richard Cox*
>> Treasurer
>> Educational Service Center of Lake Erie West
>> Work:  (419) 246-3075
>> Office: (419) 246-3075
>> Fax:      (419) 246-3076
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