[Mail_treas] 100% behind efforts on personal liability issue

[Liz Arnold]

I agree with all above and boy, do I miss Londa Schwierking!  She was
someone who was so knowledgeable and reliable for the right answers.  Let
me know what I can do to help.

Thanks,
Liz

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Lori Statler <lstatler at claymontschools.org>
wrote:

> I agree with Roxanne.  This not something that an Auditor of State
> committee can address.  This is something that OASBO, as our
> representatives, need to lobby the legislature to change for our benefit.
> Maybe if we all stopped paying our annual dues, something might change.
>
> *Lori Statler, *CFO/Treasurer
> Claymont City School District
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>
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Roxanne Mazur <roxanne.mazur@
> carrolltonschools.org> wrote:
>
>> BELOW is an email I sent to our SEOASBO President last year....My
>> feelings have not changed any.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Denise,
>>
>>
>>
>> I will be on vacation. I am pretty sure I owe dues. Who is the Treasurer
>> so I can ask and forward? I want to be up-to-date on my obligations,
>> BECAUSE…..
>>
>>
>>
>> I want to be the instigator (and would hope that others would support me)
>> in getting OASBO back to work for Treasurers. I do not need OASBO to tell
>> me which software I want or what vendor I want for a service. I need OASBO
>> to lobby for me where it counts! Years ago they were to pick up the mantle
>> to protect Treasurers from being accountable for things we have no control
>> over. Right now, especially in my world, the Supt has all the authority
>> over employees ( I was directly told in this District, that I have no
>> authority over employees) and I am fine with that, but now I am the one
>> with all the potential sanctions? That makes a lot of sense doesn’t it? I
>> don’t hire nor am I consulted on hiring, I don’t fire, I cannot discipline,
>> I cannot reassign, etc. I really would like to know from the State
>> Auditor’s point of view how it came to be that sanctions name the Treasurer
>> and NOT the Supt.  Sounds to me like BASA or other orgs that Supt belong
>> to, had more of a voice than OASBO.
>>
>>
>>
>> Another point of contention is that when Treasurers take on a Supt who is
>> “running off the rails”, Treasurers lose whether it was justified or not.
>> Not long before she passed, Londa Schwierking told me of the Treasurer  who
>> lost his job doing the “right” thing of exposing a Supt who was not
>> ethical. Supt was shucked, but then so was the Treasurer for starting it
>> all. If legislature wants us to be the police, fine; I can handle that,
>> but the police aren’t going to police without protection. That is like
>> sending a real cop into gang neighborhoods without guns or body armor. The
>> Cops aren’t going to do anything but drive through the neighborhood, at
>> best. Most people when facing the choice of keeping their job or stirring
>> crap, are going to choose keeping their job UNLESS they have protection. So
>> unless that gets built in, the policing is just token for appearance sake.
>> Who knows, maybe that is all legislators want; a good appearance. And maybe
>> I’m an idiot for thinking that most legislators really want to affect REAL
>> checks and balances for the system that is educating our young. But if they
>> really do want the right thing done, someone needs to lead them to the
>> light of how that really GETS DONE!
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for listening to me.
>>
>> Roxanne
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Richard Cox <RCox at esclakeeriewest.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Today, I have read David Flemings email today concerning the personal
>>> liability School Treasurers face each day while other school personnel are
>>> not held to the same standards and whole heartedly agree this needs to be
>>> addressed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please convey my support when you take these concerns to  the AOS forum
>>> through OASBO to get the Auditor of State to listen to our objections of
>>> making the School Treasurer's often times the scapegoat for other's
>>> misdeeds and fraud against schools.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can attest to the dramatic effect this had on myself in the past and
>>> the threat of loss of personal assets can have and our voices need to be
>>> heard.  I know others have faced this as well and the need to change this
>>> is now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In addition, OASBO needs to provide partnership and support through the
>>> legislative channels and also search for a personal liability insurance
>>> approach for Treasurers.  I have often searched for fiduciary liability
>>> insurance and cannot find such an instrument.  This issue needs to be
>>> addressed as a collective and aggressive campaign to get this changed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *It is time* this needs to be addressed and whatever I can do push this
>>> effort please let me know.  I think about this every day and whoever needs
>>> contacted please let us all know.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Richard Cox*
>>>
>>> Treasurer
>>>
>>> Educational Service Center of Lake Erie West
>>>
>>> Work:  (419) 246-3075
>>>
>>> Office: (419) 246-3075
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>>> Fax:      (419) 246-3076
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